Leo Spizzirri and Brian Hernandez Talk Pizza

[vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text]Brian Hernandez sits down with Leo Spizzirri in the Chef’s Corner and gets a rundown on what it takes to be a successful chef, pizza maker and consultant in the industry.

In this seminar Chef, Leo explains how he grew up in Chicago on Harlem Avenue. He explains that across the street from where he grew up was a neighborhood pizzeria. The summer breezes would waft toward his house bringing along the incredible smells of pizza. This was his number one memory and such an incredible experience.

Chef Leo started his pizza journey with a lot of dishwashing and floor mopping in the early days. He relates that many of his friends in the pizza industry started out the same way. you need to pay your dues if you want to make pizza. Or as the great David Bromberg relates: “You got to suffer if you want to sing the blues”. The same can be said about pizza. You need to pay your dues a bit to master the art of pizza.

One of the shockers of this interview is the fact that Chef Leo never owned his own pizzeria. He is content to work other operations. He wants to help make pizza. He is enthusiastic about helping to develop the concept. His goal is to make pizza as well as show others how to make pizza.

While the pizza was always number one for Chef Leo. He was more interested in looking at the big picture. He was more excited about watching and being part of the large pizza operation. He wanted to help integrate the back of the house and was content to make sure the operations always ran consistently.

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Here is the interview:

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Pizza Talk: John Arena and Jonathan Goldsmith

Mix together flour, salt yeast, water (and depending who you talk to: olive oil), and you can make a great pizza. Mix together two of the most passionate pizza makers in the U.S.A. and there is no telling what you are going to end up with. The end result as in both examples will be pure pizza satisfaction. With the later you will discover what fuels that passion and drive. You will also understand the spirit of pizza and the relationships that can be created as a result.

Pizza Brothers: Jonathan Goldsmith and John Arena

Pizza Brothers: Jonathan Goldsmith and John Arena

I was very fortunate to snag John Arena (Metro Pizza, Las Vegas) and Jonathan Goldsmith (Spacca Napoli, Chicago) at the close of Pizza Expo 2016, in Las Vegas. The conversation was fast, furious and totally from the heart. Both come from very different places in the pizza industry.

John, from New York, grew up around pizza and began making pizza at a very young age.  John continues to make pizza at his pizzerias in Las Vegas. In addition, he also teaches the only certified Collegiate Level class on pizza at UNLV. John spreads the joy and love with pizza at several locations around Las Vegas. While he knows New York style pizza well, he is also able to make numerous styles of pizza. John was recently invited by Caputo Flour to go to Italy to help develop a New York Style Flour. He was accompanied by pizza luminaries Tony Gemignani, Scott Wiener, Guilio Adriani, and Michele D’Amelio. (You can see a video of this event by clicking here)

Jonathan Goldsmith, learned his craft by going to the source of pizza: Naples, Italy. Jonathan learned his craft from Master Pizzaiolo Enzo Coccia. Jonathan has studied and continues to study his craft. His pizzeria, Spacca Napoli, recently celebrated a tenth anniversary. Jonathan who was a concerned with social change in a former profession, carries that over into his business of creating pizza.

While John will use olive oil in his pizza creation, Jonathan will use none. Their pizzas can be quite different, however they share a love of pizza and of each other. They have developed a strong bond over the years which continues to grow. Their passion for the craft of creating pizza is endless. When asked where is the common ground, John holds up his hands.

Both Jonathan and John embody the true spirit of pizza. While there are certain differences in their style. there is common ground in turning simple ingredients into pure pizza magic. The wonderful thing about both is their willingness to share and collaborate with others who share in the joy of creating pizza.  Both are willing to share their experience with a pizza master or someone who is just discovering the love of pizza. Pizza is a dish which inspires and illuminates.

This is a great interview with two incredible pizza makers who share in the brotherhood of pizza.

 

 

You can listen to an audio of this interview,
or download it if you wish, below:

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Jonathan’s Pizzeria is:

Spacca Napoli

 

 

 

 

 

Spacca Napoli Pizzeria

1769 W. Sunnyside Ave.
Chicago, IL 60640
773.878.2420

John Arena is the co-owner of:

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Metro Pizza:
1395 East Tropicana Avenue
Las Vegas, Nevada
Tropicana & Maryland Parkway
Phone: (702) 736-1955

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You can discover more about John by going to Pizza Quest:
https://www.fornobravo.com/pizzaquest

Information about Pizza Expo can be found:

Pizza Therapy supports the Pizza Expo

 

 

 

http://pizzaexpo.com

Pizza Therapy Website is located at:
http://pizzatherapy.com
And more Pizza Related Videos can be found at the
Pizza Therapy Channel on YouTube

Here is Penny Pollack and Jeff Ruby’s book:
Everybody Loves Pizza: The Deep Dish on America’s Favorite Food

How to Create Authentic Neapolitan Pizza with Jonathan Goldsmith of Spaca Napoli

Jonathan Goldsmith and John Arena

Jonathan Goldsmith of Spaca Napoli with John Arena of Metro Pizza at Pizza Expo

 

Jonathan Goldsmith is a pizza master. He has studied in Italy and learned his craft. He speaks fluent Italian and is able to converse eloquently in the true language of pizza.

The most amazing thing about Jonathan is his true humbleness when it comes to discussing pizza. I have spoken to him several times on the art of pizza. He says he is proud to be part of a time honored guild and tradition of pizzaioli. His restaurant in Chicago, is called Spaca Napoli.

In the video and audio below, he explains how to make authentic Neapolitan pizza dough. Jonathan was interviewed at the International Pizza Expo, in Las Vegas in 2014. He is extremely forthcoming and gladly explains the formula for making authentic Neapolitan pizza dough.

The following recipe is for 12 Dough Balls, so it may be more than enough for the home pizza chef. He states you can give some of the excess to friends and family so they can make their own pizza. He explains that if you have some dough left over, you can also use the dough recipe to make bread.

Note that in the tradition of all great bakers and pizza masters the recipe is given in baker’s weights rather than amounts of cups or measuring spoons. Professional bakers need to be exact in their measurements in order to maintain a certain amount of consistency of their product. This recipe can certainly be modified for the home pizza chef. Note also the pizza dough recipe is completely in metric units. This is how he was taught to make pizza and he share all of his knowledge to further the concept of having others create wonderful pizza.

You can feel the enthusiasm Jonathan feels for the creation of pizza. He once explained to me, he feels he is still learning his craft. He still is working at making incredible pizza.

This dough recipe will teach you to make authentic Neapolitan pizza. The recipe is listed below. As you watch the video you can learn all of the steps involved in creating amazing pizza in your own kitchen. Or if you are a pizza professional, you have discovered true pizza secrets, here.

Recipe for Pizza dough:
1 liter of water
1.7 kilos of flour
50 grams of salt
1 1/2 grams of yeast.

Jonathan is a world famous pizza maker. His restaurant Spaca Napoli has received numerous local and International awards and recognition as one of the best Pizza Restaurants in Chicago.

Here is the video:

Spaca Napoli
1769 W. Sunnyside Ave, Chicago, IL
Reservations Accepted
773-878-2420

Here is the mission of Spaca Napoli:

Spacca Napoli Pizzeria was inspired by the authentic aroma, taste, and craft of pizza found on the streets and in the pizzerias in Naples.

You can listen and download the mp3 recording of this interview, below:

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Jonathan uses Antimo Caputo Pizzeria Flour for all of his pizzas.

The Pizza Bible is HERE!

Tony's Pizza

Tony’s Pizza

True story. Tony Gemignani and his wife, Julie are visiting Honolulu for the first time. We want to take them to lunch to one of our favorite restaurants.

I’m thinking an upscale sushi place or maybe seafood dim sum. Something special.
“What do you want for lunch?” I ask.

Without batting an eye, “pizza” he states with a grin. And that is exactly what we ate.

The Pizza Bible

The Pizza Bible

Tony Gemignani thinks about pizza all the time. He lives pizza. He honors pizza.
And now he has put all of that knowledge and passion into a book about pizza called The Pizza Bible.

The The Pizza Bible is an extraordinary book which shares his passion and desire about teaching you to make incredible pizza. This book describes in detail how to recreate many different types of regional styles in your own kitchen. As you may know there are a number of different regional styles of pizza in the United States. While certainly a melting pot for many ethnic dishes, the United States has allowed pizza to be cultivated and influenced by region. And Tony takes the best of each region showing you how to create that particular pizza.

With this book Tony has raised the bar in teaching how to make great pizza. As Tony explains, this book is less about actual recipes and “more about inspiring people to master the craft of pizza.” And he takes these words to heart or more precisely as the tattoos on his hands state simply: “Respect the craft”.

Tony gives you the tools you need and the ingredients necessary. As any professional chef will tell you a scale is essential to get the exact weights of ingredients. You can keep your measuring spoons in the drawer. He starts with an equipment check list and then moves into the Master Class Shopping list. He goes into detail on the rationale about using particular tools and ingredients.

Pizza maker be warned: the path to pizza perfection takes effort. As with all crafts you wish to master you must be dedicated and tenacious. And Tony is a task master. He insists you read the first 19 pages before you try a single recipe. His notion is to teach you, then inspire you to create memorable pizzeria style pizza. He provides the steps involved and wants you to share his vision of creating pizzeria quality pizza in your own home.

You won’t do this by obtaining ordinary pizza ingredients or tools. Tony guides you as he would the pizzaioli he mentors at his pizza school or at his rare quality driven pizza workshops. He encourages you to master each step along the way. He takes you through the techniques of his Master Class. The best part is that you are sitting right in the front row!

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There are no short cuts here. As he testifies, anyone can follow a recipe and make reasonable pizza, but if you want to make authentic pizzeria style pizza, you need to follow his lead. And he takes you to pizza possibilities you never imagined. Pizza paradise, if you will. He is with you each phase along the way.

His go to flour list is a massive list of flours needed to create different types of pizzas. The flours range from Harvest King, to King Arthur’s Sir Lancelot and his own Tony’s California flour. He describes each one giving the protein percentage and why it should be used. And he shares the theory of pizza relativity. Simply stated that means making your pizza the best it can by adding touches and variation that will improve the experience. While he is an expert, Tony realizes there needs to be adjustments and flexibility in creating pizza. He gives you his framework for pizza nirvana and it up to you to become your own pizza master.

Tony Gemignani, Pizza Master

Tony Gemignani, Pizza Master

“Tony’s Ten Commandments of Pizza” are his must follow rules for pizza perfection. The commandments will help keep you grounded and on task as you go through all of the recipes.
Tony takes you on an unprecedented pizza journey in teaching you, how to create various styles of regional pizza. He shares New York, and New Haven. He gives Chicago Deep dish lessons as well as how to make Detroit and St. Louis pizza. In addition he gives many pizza secrets for making California Style, Regional Italian, and grilled pizza. Tony has also included a section on focaccia and bread. Tony shares a wealth of pizza knowledge.

Tony Gemignani has accomplished his mission with The Pizza Bible. As Tony explained to me: “I put everything I know about pizza into this book.”
If you ever wanted to make pizza like a pizzeria, this book is for you. If you are looking for the inside secrets about pizza, you have just opened the magic doors of pizza knowledge.

As Peter Reinhart once explained to me, there are two types of pizza: good pizza and great pizza. The same can be said about pizza books. “The Pizza Bible” is a great pizza book.

Check out it out here: The Pizza Bible

Liz Barrett Interview, Pizza: A Slice of American History

The following interview with Liz Barrett, author of Pizza, A Slice of American History is revealing and timely. She explains how she was able to research her book and how she was able to find some of the incredible information contained in her new treatise on pizza. Liz also shares some great advice for anyone who wants to write their own book. Thanks, Liz for taking the time to speak with me.

Liz Barrett author of Pizza, A Slice of American History

Liz Barrett author of Pizza, A Slice of American History

How did you start researching the book?

Even though I’ve been writing about the pizza industry for seven years with PMQ Pizza Magazine, I was surprised at how much research went into writing Pizza: A Slice of American History. With PMQ, I mostly write about what’s happening now, along with some predictions for the future; for this book, it’s all about pizza’s history here in America, so I turned to all of my favorite pizza books, called up some pizza folks I know, and started scouring the Net for pizza information to help fill in blanks.

What was the reason you wanted to write the book?

I wanted to bring something different to the pizza book offerings that are currently available. My publisher and I had a long discussion before I started about the various topics I could discuss in the book that would make the book more unique. Because I came at it from the standpoint of a seasoned pizza journalist, I’m able to share lots of fun nuggets of information that readers can’t necessarily find in other books. I break down the history of each of the major pizza styles and then include a variety of additional snippets of information all throughout the book, like where to find the slices outside of the normal zone, how to make them at home, pizza trivia, and more.

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What were a couple of the out of this world pizzas that you sampled?

I didn’t necessarily sample pizzas for the book. I’ve been “sampling” hundreds of pizzas since 2007, both for PMQ and for my own personal enjoyment.

Do you make your own pizza?

Every once in a while my husband and I will make pizza, and it’s good, but it’s not something we do on a regular basis. I really prefer to support the pizza makers and enjoy the pizzeria experience.

Any pizza tips for the home pizza maker?

Page 49 of the book has a whole list of tips for the home pizza maker. My favorite is: If you’re using a pizza stone to cook your pizza, put the stone in the oven during the pre-heat phase; when you put your pizza on the hot stone, it will mimic a deck oven.

What was the most fun you had researching the book?

When it comes to research, I’m kind of a nerd. I actually had the most fun with the research itself—looking back through old records to find when an ingredient was mentioned, and checking patent dates to see when certain ovens were invented, etc. When I’m on a hot lead, I’ll stay up until 3 a.m. trying to find the answer.

How did you choose the mini interviews that were included in the book?

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The people I chose to interview are just a few of the people I’ve respected over the years for being innovative, entrepreneurial, industrious, or just being a great example of the term “pizza lover”. There’s never room for everyone you want to include, but I wanted to give readers a taste of some of the people that help to make the industry what it is today.

What was the big takeaway from writing your book? Did you come to any conclusions?

That’s a great question. I think what stood out to me the most was that the same ingredients and equipment that were being used decades ago in some of these regions are still being used today. Pizza makers are very dedicated to their craft and honoring its traditions. The same ovens are being used in New Haven, Connecticut; the same square steel pans are being used in Detroit; and the same Provel cheese is topping pizzas in St. Louis. With pizza, you don’t have to be overtly innovative to please people. Give them what they remember, what gives them that warm, fuzzy, comfortable feeling inside, and they’ll love you forever.

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What advice would you give to someone who wanted to write a book like yours?

Clear your schedule. If you can write, you can write a book. But, you need to have the time for the research, phone calls, follow-ups, late nights, re-writes, deadlines, etc. I put all of my freelance writing on hold when I wrote this book because I knew there was no way I could do both at the same time. You have to focus on the book until it’s done, or you will never meet your deadline on time.

What’s next? Do you have any other books planned?

I recently spoke with someone who wanted to co-author a book with me in the business/marketing field, since I cover that topic a lot for PMQ and my blog, The Pizza Insider. For now, though, I’m focusing my efforts on getting the word out about Pizza, A Slice of American History and making sure that it ends up on the coffee table of every house and the counter of every pizzeria!

Order, your own copy right here: Pizza, A Slice of American History.

Pizza, A Slice of American History Review

One day in the near future The Complete Encyclopedia of Pizza will be published. This distinguished work will contain at least 150 volumes and will explain in detail the impact pizza has had in America and the known universe.

There will be a volume on every type of pizza, including New Haven, New York, Chicago, California, Old Forge, Detroit and much more. Some volumes will be dedicated to those influential pizzaioli such as Frank Pepe, Salvatore Consiglio, Jonathan Goldsmith, John Arena, Peter Reinhart, Ike Sewell, Dom Demarco and Ed Ladue to mention but a few.

Until the Encyclopedia of Pizza is completed, you will be more than satisfied to discover Liz Barrett’s: Pizza, A Slice of American History. This volume covers numerous types of pizza in America, those persons who influenced the regional pizza and how the various styles developed.

As a student of pizza, I was somewhat skeptical how one book could explain the history of pizza in America and the various styles included. My fears were immediately laid to rest when I started reading the introduction by pizza activist, Scott Wiener.

Barrett discusses Neapolitan and New York style pizza. She opens with the history of pizza and the differences between AVPN, New York, Tomato Pie and New Haven Apizza (Ah-beets). Sprinkled throughout the book are sketches of pizza luminaries such as Penny Pollack (Everybody Loves Pizza), Mark Bello (Pizza A Casa), Roberto Caporuscio (Don Antonio by Starita), Peter Reinhart (American Pie) and Adam Kuban (Slice).

Each type of American pie is described and dissected. She covers Detroit, St. Louis, California, Sicilian and Grandma style pizzas. Barrett’s pizza knowledge is extensive and she has a unique gift to distill the information into delectable slices. As an added benefit recipes for most styles are included. This makes this a true hands on volume as the recipes can be replicated by the home pizza chef. You can learn not only the history of each type of pie but also how to make it with step by step instructions.

She even added to the knowledge base of pizza by describing Pizza Strips created by Rhode Island Italian bakeries and found throughout the “Ocean State”. These were slices of pizza I enjoyed growing up and have only found them in that region. The pictures included are a wonderful addition and fit in nicely with the character of the book. The images are impressive and create a brilliant visual history of pizza. You will discover some rarities which are true nuggets of the pizza saga.

For anyone who loves pizza, this book will fit nicely on your library shelf. Some of the topics are brushed over, but understanding the depth of the subject matter, that is not an issue. I would have liked to have seen a discussion on the strong influence of the Internet on Pizza, but maybe that can be included in a volume of the Complete Encyclopedia of Pizza.

This is a well written book for anyone who ever held a slice. Grab your own copy, and discover the wonders of “a magical little disk that makes things happen”. You will encounter with this book how pizza is very much a part of the fabric of America. Pizza, is A Slice of American History.

Claim your own copy, right here: Pizza, A Slice of American History

Correct Way to Eat A Chicago Deep Dish Pizza

Just to let you know….there is a correct way to eat a deep dish Chicago Pizza.

Kyle Olsen writes:

Many claim to know how to eat the scrumptious round dish of love we
call a Chicago deep dish pizza. The problem is; they often fail to
realize the proper Windy City etiquette and technique.

This is where Lou Malnati’s and
TastesofChicago.com come in. We’ve
worked together to develop a video that will once and for all show
everyone how to properly each a deep dish pizza like a true
Chicagoan.

How to Eat Pizza like a Chicagoan

Spacca Napoli Owner, Jonathan Goldsmith, Master Pizzaiolo Interview

Jonathan Goldsmith is a master pizzaiolo. That is a pizza master. Jonathan is humble explaining he is honored to be part of the guild of Pizza Makers.

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Jonathan and Albert

He does not consider himself a pizza master. Rather he explains, he is still learning the craft. Using the analogy of apprenticing for a master painter, he explains he is only able to clean the brushes. He is not able to pick up a paintbrush…yet.

The truth of the matter is that he makes some of the Best Pizza in Chicago. He takes pride in every pizza he creates. Part of him goes into every pizza. He has the true spirit of pizza inside of him.

Jonathan journeys to Italy 3 or 4 times a year. He is serious about immersing himself into the culture. He lives the Italian culture. He is quite serious about the philosophy and love of pizza.

Jonathan shares the same love and passion of pizza shared by John Arena of Metro Pizza in Las Vegas. They both a diplomats of pizza. Showing their love of pizza through action.

According to Jonathan:

Recently my partner Ginny reminded me that approximately ten years ago the idea for Spacca Napoli was born, or rather, as she describes it, Cupid shot a pizza love arrow.

Jonathan Goldsmith makes a point of pizza!

Jonathan Goldsmith makes a point of pizza!

The following video interview was conducted at the International Pizza Expo in Las Vegas. Jonathan was candid and open in explaining his thoughts and ideas about pizza making.

Here is an audio of the interview of Johnathan Goldsmith .

Listen, or download this interview with Jonathan Goldsmith, to your computer:

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Spacca Napoli

Spacca Napoli

You can find more about Spacca Napoli, here:

Spacca Napoli
1769 W. Sunnyside Chicago IL 60640
(773) 878-2420

 
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Jonathan Goldsmith of Spacca Napoli Interview

Jonathan Goldsmith is a true Legend of Pizza.

He has pizza passion. He moved to Italy to learn to create authentic Neapolitan Pizza.

The result is his very famous pizzeria, Spacca Napoli:

According the their website:

The creation of Spacca Napoli ame out of Jon Goldsmith’s profound love for Italy, a cherished place that he, partner Ginny Sykes and daughter Sarah have considered a second home for many years.

One could say the dream was always there, waiting for the right moment to be born.

From Florence to the Gargano to Naples, creating the pizzeria came naturally, bringing together Jon’s passions for cooking and hospitality and melding them with his appreciation of all things Italian. The plan began to take shape on a flight to Italy in July 2004, following a casual suggestion to Jon from a fellow traveller who was from Naples that he ought to open a pizzeria in Chicago. On that trip, Jon began to talk about the pizzeria idea to his many Italian friends in Rodi Garganico (Rodiani).

 He was encouraged to go west for “true” pizza, to Naples — said to be the birthplace of pizza. As that summer drew to a close, Jon was determined to bring the essence of the Italian markets, the street life, and the abundance of Italy right back to Chicago.

 

 

Visit Spacca Napoli:

1769 W. Sunnyside, Chicago, IL 60640

• 773.878.2420

 

Jonathan exclusively uses Caputo:

Antimo Caputo Superfine Farina Flour “00” 10 count / 2.2 lb