{"id":2239,"date":"2016-03-25T07:59:47","date_gmt":"2016-03-25T17:59:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/?p=2239"},"modified":"2017-08-19T20:02:24","modified_gmt":"2017-08-20T06:02:24","slug":"pizza-talk-john-arena-jonathan-goldsmith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/pizza-talk-john-arena-jonathan-goldsmith","title":{"rendered":"Pizza Talk: John Arena and Jonathan Goldsmith"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mix together flour, salt yeast, water (and depending who you talk to: olive oil), and you can make a great pizza. Mix together two of the most passionate pizza makers in the U.S.A. and there is no telling what you are going to end up with. The end result as in both examples will be pure pizza satisfaction. With the later you will discover what fuels that passion and drive. You will also understand the spirit of pizza and the relationships that can be created as a result.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2249\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2249\" style=\"width: 358px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-2249 \" src=\"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/2016-03-13_20-03-10-300x233.png\" alt=\"Pizza Brothers: Jonathan Goldsmith and John Arena\" width=\"358\" height=\"278\" srcset=\"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/2016-03-13_20-03-10-300x233.png 300w, http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/2016-03-13_20-03-10-768x596.png 768w, http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/2016-03-13_20-03-10.png 855w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 358px) 100vw, 358px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2249\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pizza Brothers: Jonathan Goldsmith and John Arena<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I was very fortunate to snag <strong>John Arena<\/strong> (<strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/metropizza.com\/location\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Metro Pizza<\/a><\/span>,<\/strong> Las Vegas) and <strong>Jonathan Goldsmith<\/strong> (<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.spaccanapolipizzeria.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spacca Napoli<\/a><\/strong>, Chicago) at the close of <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/pizzaexpo.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Pizza Expo<\/strong> <\/a><\/span>2016, in Las Vegas. The conversation was fast, furious and totally from the heart. Both come from very different places in the pizza industry.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John<\/strong>, from New York, grew up around pizza and began making pizza at a very young age. \u00a0John continues to make pizza at his pizzerias in Las Vegas. In addition, he also teaches the only certified Collegiate Level class on pizza at<strong> UNLV<\/strong>. John spreads the joy and love with pizza at several locations around Las Vegas. While he knows New York style pizza well, he is also able to make numerous styles of pizza. John was recently invited by Caputo Flour to go to Italy to help develop a New York Style Flour. He was accompanied by pizza luminaries <strong>Tony Gemignani<\/strong>, <strong>Scott Wiener<\/strong>,<strong> Guilio Adriani,<\/strong>\u00a0and <strong>Michele D&#8217;Amelio. <\/strong>(You can see a video of this event by <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Txj7e8tn10g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">clicking here<\/a><\/strong><\/span>)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jonathan Goldsmith<\/strong>, learned his craft by going to the source of pizza: Naples, Italy. Jonathan learned his craft from<strong> Master Pizzaiolo Enzo Coccia. <\/strong>Jonathan has studied and continues to study his craft. His pizzeria, <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.spaccanapolipizzeria.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spacca Napoli<\/a><\/strong><\/span>, recently celebrated a tenth anniversary. Jonathan who was a concerned with social change in a former profession, carries that over into his business of creating pizza.<\/p>\n<p>While <strong>John<\/strong> will use olive oil in his pizza creation, <strong>Jonathan<\/strong> will use none. Their pizzas can be quite different, however they share a love of pizza and of each other. They have developed a strong bond over the years which continues to grow. Their passion for the craft of creating pizza is endless. When asked where is the common ground, <strong>John<\/strong> holds up his hands.<\/p>\n<p>Both <strong>Jonathan<\/strong> and <strong>John<\/strong> embody the true spirit of pizza. While there are certain differences in their style. there is common ground in turning simple ingredients into pure pizza magic. The wonderful thing about both is their willingness to share and collaborate with others who share in the joy of creating pizza. \u00a0Both are willing to share their experience with a pizza master or someone who is just discovering the love of pizza. Pizza is a dish which inspires and illuminates.<\/p>\n<p>This is a great interview with two incredible pizza makers who share in the brotherhood of pizza.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6X_J2Ff2DzY\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>You can listen to an audio of this interview,<br \/>\n<\/strong><strong>or download it if you wish, below:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[display_podcast]<\/p>\n<p>Jonathan&#8217;s Pizzeria is:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.spaccanapolipizzeria.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2254 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/spacanapoli.jpg\" alt=\"Spacca Napoli\" width=\"264\" height=\"182\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.spaccanapolipizzeria.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spacca Napoli Pizzeria<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>1769 W. Sunnyside Ave.<br \/>\nChicago, IL 60640<br \/>\n773.878.2420<\/p>\n<p>John Arena is the co-owner of:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/metropizza.com\/location\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2248 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/2015-08-21_10-32-40.jpg\" alt=\"2015-08-21_10-32-40\" width=\"274\" height=\"130\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/metropizza.com\/location\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Metro Pizza<\/a>:<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n1395 East Tropicana Avenue<br \/>\nLas Vegas, Nevada<br \/>\nTropicana &amp; Maryland Parkway<br \/>\nPhone: (702) 736-1955<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2250 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/2016-03-16_12-49-03-300x159.jpg\" alt=\"2016-03-16_12-49-03\" width=\"300\" height=\"159\" srcset=\"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/2016-03-16_12-49-03-300x159.jpg 300w, http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/2016-03-16_12-49-03.jpg 304w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>You can discover more about John by going to<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> Pizza Quest<\/a>:<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Information about <strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/pizzaexpo.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pizza Expo<\/a><\/span><\/strong> can be found:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/pizzaexpo.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1024 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/legendsofpizza.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/pizza-expo.jpg\" alt=\"Pizza Therapy supports the Pizza Expo\" width=\"233\" height=\"82\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/pizzaexpo.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">http:\/\/pizzaexpo.com<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pizza Therapy Website is located at:<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/pizzatherapy.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">http:\/\/pizzatherapy.com<\/a><\/span><\/strong><br \/>\nAnd more Pizza Related Videos can be found at the<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/pizzatherapy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pizza Therapy Channel on YouTube<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Here is <strong>Penny Pollack<\/strong> and <strong>Jeff Ruby&#8217;s<\/strong> book:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1578602181\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1578602181&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=pizzatherapycybe&amp;linkId=GQK5ZDDAEEZ5KCIO\">Everybody Loves Pizza: The Deep Dish on America&#8217;s Favorite Food<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=pizzatherapycybe&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1578602181\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ac&amp;ref=tf_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=pizzatherapycybe&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=1578602181&amp;asins=1578602181&amp;linkId=6RO5RUEGL7RVCWAP&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><br \/>\n<\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While John will use olive oil in his pizza creation, Jonathan will use none. Their pizzas can be quite different, however they share a love of pizza and of each other. They have developed a strong bond over the years which continues to grow. Their passion for the craft of creating pizza is endless. 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